<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-514796601118085561.post1023243257100712818..comments</id><updated>2009-10-18T11:52:27.389-07:00</updated><category term='media'/><category term='technology'/><category term='educational research'/><category term='multitasking'/><category term='publications'/><category term='digital immigrant'/><category term='discourse'/><category term='Net generation'/><category term='stereotyping'/><category term='social technology'/><category term='digital divide'/><category term='critical thinking'/><category term='media use'/><category term='handbook'/><category term='socio-economic issues'/><category term='conference'/><category term='digital wisdom'/><category term='educational theory'/><category term='library'/><category term='eduacational research'/><category term='presentation'/><category term='evidence'/><category term='digital literacy'/><category term='learning technology'/><category term='social networking'/><category term='millennials'/><category term='self-perception'/><category term='planning'/><category term='web 2.0'/><category term='peer review'/><category term='generation Y'/><category term='critical review'/><category term='open access'/><category term='educational technology'/><category term='e-learning'/><category term='technology use'/><category term='hype'/><category term='millenial learner'/><category term='blogs'/><category term='google generation'/><category term='engagement'/><category term='facebook'/><category term='higher education'/><category term='K-12'/><category term='socioecnomic status'/><category term='research'/><category term='ICTs'/><category term='teacher education'/><category term='television news'/><category term='new millennium learner'/><category term='policy'/><category term='educational learner'/><category term='Snark syndrome'/><category term='Internet skills'/><category term='research methods'/><category term='social web'/><category term='book'/><category term='digital learners'/><category term='libraries'/><category term='claims'/><category term='digital textbooks'/><category term='online learning'/><category term='digital native'/><category term='information processing'/><category term='skepticism'/><category term='digital culture'/><category term='learning spaces'/><category term='reearch'/><category term='digital technology'/><category term='digitallearners'/><category term='gender'/><category term='teens'/><category term='social media'/><category term='attitudes'/><category term='critique'/><category term='digital natives'/><category term='information seeking'/><category term='sociology'/><category term='21st century skills'/><category term='generational differences'/><category term='digtial learners'/><title type='text'>Comments on Net Gen Skeptic: Grown Up Digital Research Methods</title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.netgenskeptic.com/feeds/1023243257100712818/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/514796601118085561/1023243257100712818/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.netgenskeptic.com/2009/04/grown-up-digital-research-methods.html'/><author><name>Mark Bullen</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13566965958559257348</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_SH2JTqf5nuA/SBuC79oPbSI/AAAAAAAAAFc/z0Kvy5NIwQk/S220/passport.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>4</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-514796601118085561.post-6076726085000829028</id><published>2009-10-18T11:52:27.389-07:00</published><updated>2009-10-18T11:52:27.389-07:00</updated><title type='text'>re. Grown Up Digital- while Tapscott makes (vague)...</title><content type='html'>re. Grown Up Digital- while Tapscott makes (vague) reference to the research his firm carried out for (unnamed) clients, much of the book consists of anecdotes about his kids, Niki and Alex, and their friends. He over generalizes from their experiences and from his peers. Early on, comparing Net-Gen childhoods (his children) with Boomer childhoods (his own), he comments that the Boomers didn&amp;#39;t have nannies. Maybe Tapscott hired nannies when his kids were young, and perhaps many of his well-off Toronto peers did too, but none of the (presumably Net-Gen) children I teach in a heavily immigrant Vancouver school come from families that hired nannies. Generational stereotyping like this is always wrong- whether Charles Reich&amp;#39;s 1969 Greening of America or Don Tapscott&amp;#39;s 2009 Grown Up Digital.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/514796601118085561/1023243257100712818/comments/default/6076726085000829028'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/514796601118085561/1023243257100712818/comments/default/6076726085000829028'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.netgenskeptic.com/2009/04/grown-up-digital-research-methods.html?showComment=1255891947389#c6076726085000829028' title=''/><author><name>azisman</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03265029989871586015</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.netgenskeptic.com/2009/04/grown-up-digital-research-methods.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-514796601118085561.post-1023243257100712818' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/514796601118085561/posts/default/1023243257100712818' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-271959341'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-514796601118085561.post-8782525009836083452</id><published>2009-04-27T10:21:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-04-27T10:21:00.000-07:00</updated><title type='text'>@Mark I agree that painting an entire generation w...</title><content type='html'>@Mark I agree that painting an entire generation with certain characteristics is problematic in 2 ways. It is overly generalizing, and it ignores that the changes projected on this generation are taking place in other age groups as well, because they are general changes in our everyday routines/environment. Perhaps younger generations have less to unlearn, less ingrained behaviour to come up with novel uses quicker, but that's about it, I think.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/514796601118085561/1023243257100712818/comments/default/8782525009836083452'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/514796601118085561/1023243257100712818/comments/default/8782525009836083452'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.netgenskeptic.com/2009/04/grown-up-digital-research-methods.html?showComment=1240852860000#c8782525009836083452' title=''/><author><name>Ton</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10724486867175762977</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_6yysgx_jvns/STqJezTRpYI/AAAAAAAAAUA/jHX8ARuR9Ng/S220/avatar_ton.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.netgenskeptic.com/2009/04/grown-up-digital-research-methods.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-514796601118085561.post-1023243257100712818' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/514796601118085561/posts/default/1023243257100712818' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-421985272'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-514796601118085561.post-4361821115215104249</id><published>2009-04-26T10:02:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-04-26T10:02:00.000-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Thanks for this comment. I certainly agree that co...</title><content type='html'>Thanks for this comment. I certainly agree that collecting stories online is appropriate if you are only investigating the behaviour of the people who use these tools and "hang out" in these places but as I understand it, Tapscott was trying to do more than that. He makes generalizations about an entire generation based on the data he collected. Surely if you want to get an accurate picture of how this generation uses and thinks about digital technology you must not only sample the heavy users of the technology.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/514796601118085561/1023243257100712818/comments/default/4361821115215104249'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/514796601118085561/1023243257100712818/comments/default/4361821115215104249'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.netgenskeptic.com/2009/04/grown-up-digital-research-methods.html?showComment=1240765320000#c4361821115215104249' title=''/><author><name>Mark Bullen</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13566965958559257348</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_SH2JTqf5nuA/SBuC79oPbSI/AAAAAAAAAFc/z0Kvy5NIwQk/S220/passport.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.netgenskeptic.com/2009/04/grown-up-digital-research-methods.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-514796601118085561.post-1023243257100712818' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/514796601118085561/posts/default/1023243257100712818' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-2066203863'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-514796601118085561.post-2194464463831945126</id><published>2009-04-26T00:06:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-04-26T00:06:00.000-07:00</updated><title type='text'>While I agree on your distinction between 'open' a...</title><content type='html'>While I agree on your distinction between 'open' academic research and proprietary research, I'm not sure I agree with your general point in this posting. &lt;br /&gt;Isn't it already well documented what part of the population in what age-group in which country has access to internet and what part doesn't?  Easily factored in, I'd say.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course for qualitative material you would go to places where you can find that. Collecting stories on-line in a regular hang-out of people (Facebook group in this case) is not strange. Anthropologists do that all the time, don't they?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you want to know if there are differences in behaviour between different age groups on-line, of course you would do on-line surveys if you want a wide reach. And then it's no use asking those not on-line. It would be interesting to ask questions about off-line behaviour as well though. (I e.g. surveyed 550 kids aged 10-11 last year and they liked playing outside best, while 99% were active on the internet)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It would help to know the methods of the Grown Up Digital research better, because we're now both speculating I'd say. Why not ask the author about methods? That's what the (social) web is for. Why not ask Don Tapscott himself?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don't think there's a NetGen/GenY, because it's a label and a set of expectations other people stick and project on 'them'. It's more often used to define NetGen as an out-group (so I don't have to change).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That internet and mobile communications as infrastructure have a profound impact on our societies I don't doubt one second however. That's the type of impact new infrastructure always has had in the past as well (railroad time, anyone?). It's affecting all of us, not just the on-line part of the population.&lt;br /&gt;And in much more fundamental ways than people usually imagine. It is changing our view on workplace, organisational structures, collaboration, social environment, mobility, political parties, empathy, cities, etc.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Focussing on what tools people use, if they chat or skype etc, is largely irrelevant to me. The tools will be different in 1 year, if not 6 months. They're interesting as experiments, to find out what new affordances these infrastructures can give us that weren't originally designed into them. It's the affordances that change us. The tools are froth on the wave in that regard.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(end of Sunday morning rant ;) )</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/514796601118085561/1023243257100712818/comments/default/2194464463831945126'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/514796601118085561/1023243257100712818/comments/default/2194464463831945126'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.netgenskeptic.com/2009/04/grown-up-digital-research-methods.html?showComment=1240729560000#c2194464463831945126' title=''/><author><name>Ton</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10724486867175762977</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_6yysgx_jvns/STqJezTRpYI/AAAAAAAAAUA/jHX8ARuR9Ng/S220/avatar_ton.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.netgenskeptic.com/2009/04/grown-up-digital-research-methods.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-514796601118085561.post-1023243257100712818' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/514796601118085561/posts/default/1023243257100712818' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-421985272'/></entry></feed>
